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[Nickerjones]

Meh.. maybe we should just leave it alone ... Nothing is going to get done.. The worst thing they are really doing is not shipping stuff that doesn't go for a price they want( and lying about pro stock stuff too i suppose) .. Its not like they are stealing the people's money.
Who cares.. are you saying you have never don't anything like that before?

[HockeySavants]

Meh.. maybe we should just leave it alone ... Nothing is going to get done.. The worst thing they are really doing is not shipping stuff that doesn't go for a price they want( and lying about pro stock stuff too i suppose) .. Its not like they are stealing the people's money.
Who cares.. are you saying you have never don't anything like that before?

I always combine ship (and encourage it too), first to leave feedback, answer questions usually within minutes, try to work out with the customer, you know...the essentials of good customer service.

I also believe that the customer wants a very reasonable shipping charge, I will charge no more than $15 for gloves around the US, $8 for sticks, and always choose USPS Priority. Customers want a fair price on shipping and want them fast if possible.

If I want a certain price on an item, I'll set a reserve, it's easy as that. PPAuctions can just as easy do the same.

You will find out how honest money > greed.

[Nickerjones]

I always combine ship (and encourage it too), first to leave feedback, answer questions usually within minutes, try to work out with the customer, you know...the essentials of good customer service.

I also believe that the customer wants a very reasonable shipping charge, I will charge no more than $15 for gloves around the US, $8 for sticks, and always choose USPS Priority. Customers want a fair price on shipping and want them fast if possible.

If I want a certain price on an item, I'll set a reserve, it's easy as that. PPAuctions can just as easy do the same.

You will find out how honest money > greed.

All that shipping stuff is w/e, its ebay... There has been ebay shams going since ebay was created. It's not really against the rules per se, its just them being jerks.
However lets talk about the greed factor
... lets be honest I know for a fact you have put up a pair of gloves on the boards for a certain price... People messaged you to buy them, you decided since there was a lot of interest you would now keep them, to possibly sell for more... I have to think thats why since now you want over double that asking price....

Im just busting your balls a bit here but I am just proving that even you succumb to a little greed every now and again no?

[HockeySavants]

All that shipping stuff is w/e, its ebay... There has been ebay shams going since ebay was created. It's not really against the rules per se, its just them being jerks.
However lets talk about the greed factor
... lets be honest I know for a fact you have put up a pair of gloves on the boards for a certain price... People messaged you to buy them, you decided since there was a lot of interest you would now keep them, to possibly sell for more... I have to think thats why since now you want over double that asking price....

Im just busting your balls a bit here but I am just proving that even you succumb to a little greed every now and again no?

This isn't the room or place to discuss that.

If you are not happy that I won't go down on the price of the gloves, I'm sorry you feel that way. I refuse to sell them to be honest, and at this point will no longer have them available.


I sold Fat Philly a Pro Stock APX for $110 shipped I believe as a good gesture, as well as others some RS sticks for $120, you couldn't possibly tell me that I was looking to strike it rich there.

[Nickerjones]

This isn't the room or place to discuss that.

If you are not happy that I won't go down on the price of the gloves, I'm sorry you feel that way. I refuse to sell them to be honest, and at this point will no longer have them available.


I sold Fat Philly a Pro Stock APX for $110 shipped I believe as a good gesture, as well as others some RS sticks for $120, you couldn't possibly tell me that I was looking to strike it rich there.

as I said, I was just giving you a hard time but also pointing out that sometimes people just want more for their stuff. You can't call out these guys for being greedy if you have done the same thing eh? That being said, I personally think it sucks that they won't sell the items that go for a decent price. I don't know how they get away with it.

[Gr8erade]

You will find out how honest money > greed.

Like listing gloves that sell for $125 new for $160 and claiming they're pro stock?

Call me confused on that one, my friend.

[thinkingjack]

i lost a pair of Rangers Easton gloves two weeks ago, which pissed me off very bad. I had the highest bid at 180 and then it shot up, hardcore to 295. Ten hours after it ended (ended around 2am) i get an email offering me a second chance, i decide to bite and they want 250 dollars as a second chance offer to me to buy it. I told them to eat a male organ and have refused to bid on their shit again.

[HockeySavants]

Ya that's the classic move they always do. They will see what you are willing to pay.

[Gr8erade]

i lost a pair of Rangers Easton gloves two weeks ago, which pissed me off very bad. I had the highest bid at 180 and then it shot up, hardcore to 295. Ten hours after it ended (ended around 2am) i get an email offering me a second chance, i decide to bite and they want 250 dollars as a second chance offer to me to buy it. I told them to eat a male organ and have refused to bid on their shit again.

Sounds to me like you had your maximum bid set for $250 and were hoping to get the gloves for only $180. Your story doesn't make sense with the way eBay works. Second chance bidding is usually offered to the person who bid the next highest. And if you plugged $250 in, you said you were willing to pay $250. Apparently you were not willing. If you weren't willing to pay $250' then you shouldn't have bid that much.

The simple solution is to not bid on their items if you don't want to pay their prices. Reading this thread, it seems like some of you are more angry that you're not able to swipe their stuff for less than its worth.

[kaaayelll]

Wait...it was Gr8erade in the library with the candlestick!!!

[Gr8erade]

Wait...it was Gr8erade in the library with the candlestick!!!

Huh?

Anyway, here's an alternate version of what I think happens. I think people place a bid at the end of auctions that they really have no intention of paying. They think that if they put in a big bid, then they won't get beat out by the guy who bids a dollar more. The problem with that theory is that it doesn't work if a couple people all do the same thing, then you have a massive jump in prices right at the end. The solution is to treat eBay like the actual auction site that it is. Bid only what you're willing to pay. If you get t, you're happy. If you don't, you get another pair the next time. There's always another pair. Worse thing that happens is you lose a bid by a buck.

But if you autobid against someone and you put a price down you're actually not willing to pay, then this is exactly what happens here if more than one person does it.

And when Mom finds out that Johnny bid $300 to get gloves like Gaborik wears, and Mommy won't let Johnny pay, sometimes you get the second chance opportunity. But the second chance comes at the price you SAID you were willing to bid. Not at the price you really only were hoping to pay.

And here, perhaps Johnny couldnt pay. Then they contacted the other guy who did the same thing, and he didn't really want to pay $280, because he thought he was sniping the gloves for $181.50. And they worked their way to the guy who bid $250 thinking he was going to get the gloves for $180 and not going to lose to a guy who only bid $181.50.

Maybe that didn't happen here. But I suspect that this might account for what does happen on some of these auctions.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is a whole lot more realistic than the convoluted conspiracy theories spouted off in this thread.

[thinkingjack]

Sounds to me like you had your maximum bid set for $250 and were hoping to get the gloves for only $180. Your story doesn't make sense with the way eBay works. Second chance bidding is usually offered to the person who bid the next highest. And if you plugged $250 in, you said you were willing to pay $250. Apparently you were not willing. If you weren't willing to pay $250' then you shouldn't have bid that much.

The simple solution is to not bid on their items if you don't want to pay their prices. Reading this thread, it seems like some of you are more angry that you're not able to swipe their stuff for less than its worth.

Go back take a breath with all your angry posts the last few days and read what i wrote a little more calm will you?


I held the highest bidding for a while at 180 no one was beating me. I put my highest bid at 215 actually. Then it shot up with two "guys" bidding it up to the price i stated. So i gave up and said "whatever i'll buy some rangers eastons another time"


Then the next day later on, i get an email from the guy asking if i'm interested still and i said sure, he sends me a "Second Chance" for a fixed price of 250 bucks, i turned it down and back up they went.




What was so hard about understanding that? I understand you're trying to call me a cheapskate and thats cool cause i work hard for my money anyway to support myself and my fiancee, but i can't justify paying 250 bucks PLUS shipping for a fourth line players gloves from three years ago on their team when i own their captains gloves and they cost me much less than that and are brand new. I also don't auto bid, matter of fact, i think thats pretty lame. If i lose a bidding, thats final, but i'm not gonna let them try to take me for a ride on what they want me to pay by them padding their biddings. Seeing as some people are known to do that too, to raise their prices.


Don't talk for me on your "little johnny" post. I'm a grown man, with lots going on instead of posting and trying to slam everyone on this board and start crap with your retarded assumptions. Also calling me angry does nothing, i get angry for like five seconds and then move on.

[Gr8erade]

You seem angry. Are you okay now?

The simple solution is to buy your gloves from someplace else if you think something hinky is going on. I personally think that this particular seller seems to attract the kind of buyers who I just described. Ones who bid a lot and then don't necessarily pay.

Also, it seems like if you read this thread, there's obviously some bidders who do bid up and retract because they think there's shill bidding going on and they're intent on "proving it". All that does is screw up the process for everyone else. That may or may not have happened here too. When the seller went to collect, the high bidders retracted. So they offered you the gloves. I don't see that as proof that this seller did anything wrong.

I didn't say you were little Johnny, by the way. But I think this seller attracts guys who try to snipe stuff, for whatever reason. Sounds like you got sniped by a little Johnny.

[thinkingjack]

I wasn't angry at all.

I buy my gloves in many places, if i find something cool i'll throw my hat into the bidding for it on ebay too. That was my second time with that seller and i can say it was the last since they did the second offer and thirty minutes later they were back up, so obviously no one bought em, I bid what i know i can and will pay, and if it reaches a rich price, i stop bidding, i know my limits.


Cute comment.

[Gr8erade]

I avoid that seller not because I think they're up to anything (I've gotten good things from them at good prices), I avoid them because I think they attract non-serious bidders who screw up the pricing.

I'm glad you enjoyed the comment!

[thinkingjack]

i used to buy stuff from them under my old account back before they started doing this, used to get good gear, good prices, and solid people to deal with, times a changin.