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#1 Gordo

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 08:25 AM

Not sure if this has been posted but has anyone tried bladetech steel for edge holders? If so what are your thoughts?

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#2 Dupes

Dupes

Posted 26 April 2017 - 08:44 AM

Never heard of them.

 

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#3 Gordo

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 09:10 AM

Apparently a bunch of Capitals players wear them.

#4 puckhead24

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 11:03 AM

saw the caps play in Montreal towards the end of the season...almost every single player was skating on some variation of black steel whether it be in an edge holder or a CCM skate.. I assumed it was regular CCM Black steel or in the case of an edge holder: Step or Tydan. 



#5 malcb33

malcb33

Posted 27 April 2017 - 06:33 PM

I think the theory of this steel has potential (same with the Marsblade) but I don't really understand how the steel actually gives you movement (the spring effect).

If you think about it the steel even though it has a cut out portion won't provide the amount of spring to be beneficial to the user as it is a rigid material. So is the plastic holder providing the spring?

As for the Caps players using the Bladetech blades from my eye it seems that they are using mostly black steel. I guess the Caps could have had their Bladetech blades DLC coated but it could also mean that they were supplied the steel but choose Step or whatever instead. Hard to say.

I have heard that this steel sharpens very well.

#6 Aussiescott

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 07:23 PM

The bladetech does come in a black steel model so hard to say if the caps are using this or step without some really good photos

#7 flip12

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  • LocationCopenhagen, Denmark

Posted 28 April 2017 - 12:56 AM

I think the theory of this steel has potential (same with the Marsblade) but I don't really understand how the steel actually gives you movement (the spring effect).

If you think about it the steel even though it has a cut out portion won't provide the amount of spring to be beneficial to the user as it is a rigid material. So is the plastic holder providing the spring?

As for the Caps players using the Bladetech blades from my eye it seems that they are using mostly black steel. I guess the Caps could have had their Bladetech blades DLC coated but it could also mean that they were supplied the steel but choose Step or whatever instead. Hard to say.

I have heard that this steel sharpens very well.

 

I get your skepticism here, but it's a relative balance between rigidity and flexibility: steel is rigid but also flexible. I studied architecture, not engineering, so the example that comes to mind is the standard concrete and (steel) rebar mix in construction that plays on the combination of the compression strength of stone (concrete) and the tensile (flexion) strength of steel to make a structure that's got the best of both. For some more examples from an engineer, see this Quora post. The determination of what's flexible in a construction involving multiple parts like a building or a hockey skate, the relative flexibility of the components has to be worked out. I'd imagine there's more springiness in the holder, but it depends on the holder, and also the cantilever effect of the toe spring in the steel might activate targeted flexion there, as the steel in that area leans on its support against the holder that's some distance away from its bight shape. This is where I'd want an engineer to answer.

 

As with Marsblade's ice holder I wonder, how is this different from a softer, springier holder like Custom+? Is it potentially just another product based on skates and holders being too stiff these days--I'm also thinking of CCM's success with not-so-stiff JetSpeeds, and anticipation of the reception of the 70k's which are even softer. Maybe skates and holders aren't too stiff for everyone. Even though Bladetech's tests are not representative (they don't even have enough data there to start talking about the Central Limit Theorem to approximate generalization) there are some skaters who perform better on their usual setup. Maybe more stiffness is good for some, but less stiffness is better for many more.



#8 malcb33

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:51 AM

I completely understand your point and that steel has some flexibility even though it's a mainly rigid material. I guess what I was trying to say is under the pressures exerted in this situation it wouldn't be enough to provide a beneficial about of energy return (spring).

I use Sprung inline frames (which act in the same manner) and knowing from experience how much force they require to their urethane bushing (a substantially softer material known for rebound) to get a beneficial energy return from steel would take a fairly extreme amount of force. I believe the Marsblade holder also uses some type of urethane bushing as well.

#9 Dupes

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 08:13 AM

Anymore feedback for Bladetech?


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#10 Dupes

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Posted 10 February 2021 - 06:26 AM

To the top. Anyone used Bladetech lately?


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#11 Mdwsta4

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Posted 10 February 2021 - 12:27 PM

Around 2018 when I was living in DC I was given a set of black Bladetech steel and the manager at the time told me how many players on the Caps were using it. I tried them for 3 or 4 games before switching back to Step. I don't have anything bad to say about the steel, but I don't have any high praises either. I didn't notice the 'spring' at all and I'm still concerned about the long term durability of the steel moving in the holder over a long period of time.

 

I'm always surprised that Bladetech has been around for more than a few years now, pros are apparently using it, and yet there is almost zero information out there about them. You'd think if they really wanted to expand their footprint in the beer league world they'd get more sets out there so when people search for steel they'd at least come up in the conversation