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#1 60PlusWinger

60PlusWinger

Posted 05 March 2020 - 09:33 AM

I was hoping that somebody could clarify which profile is recommended for a 280 mm holder. I have edge 280s on my size 8 and 8.25 boots. Pro shark recommends a Quad 0 for sizes up to 8 but Quad 1 for 9+. Now my holders in a stock skate size 8-8.5 would be 272 normally for Bauer BUT they are E and EE do the holder size is larger. Which should I go with?

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#2 Robbieaik

Robbieaik

Posted 05 March 2020 - 10:34 AM

100% that chart is false and most likely got the sizes in US show size and not in skate size. Prosharps’ website has other sizes.
Detroit 2 is also missing.
(Working as an EQM using these machines almost every day).

Anyways.
It all depends on your skating style/stride and position combined.

If you just pivot and build your game around tight turns you should go with quad 0.
Quad 1 gives you a mix of both glide and pivots, while quad 2 give you a more powerful stride, more strenght.

Quad zero is mostly for 263 steels or smaller.

I usually skate hard North/South as a center/winger and got 271 steels, full inch hollow.
Works perfectly for me and I usually recommend Q1 or Q2 to my players.

Got 5 Pro players in to the quad profiles, coming from 10-13feet single radiuses.


I Would rather use quad 1 than quad 0.
Prosharp recommend a Q2 for 280 holders, and 271 is seen as a Breaking point between Q1/Q2.

It’s like with the zuperior profiles where you got S, M or L.

#3 60PlusWinger

60PlusWinger

Posted 05 March 2020 - 10:46 AM

Depends on your skating style/stride and position combined.

If you just pivot and build your game around tight turns you should go with quad 0.
Quad 1 gives you a mix of both glide and pivots, while quad 2 give you a more powerful stride, more strenght.

Quad zero is mostly for 263 steels or smaller.

I usually skate hard North/South as a center/winger and got 271 steels, full inch hollow.
Works perfectly for me and I usually recommend Q1 or Q2 to my players.

Got 5 Pro players in to the quad profiles, coming from 10-13feet single radiuses.


I Would rather use quad 1 than quad 0.
Prosharp recommend a Q2 for 280 holders, and 271 is seen as a Breaking point between Q1/Q2.

It’s like with the zuperior profiles where you got S, M or L.


I play wing primarily and I’m not typically doing a lot of mucking in close. I do a lot of north and south skating but I do occasionally cut into open space but not much for starts and stops. I’ve been having trouble with my first five steps as acceleration is lacking but once I get SOME speed I’m faster. Essentially I’ve been having an issue with separation/feeling a bit flat footed off the line. The skate is a 1S 8.0 E AND 8.25 ee so it’s a longer holder/more steel with a smaller boot. Would Quad 2 be the best idea or Quad 1? Seems like 0 is out.

#4 Robbieaik

Robbieaik

Posted 05 March 2020 - 11:00 AM

Definately go with a 0,5mm pitch, will make you lean slightly forward and give you a kickstart.

I would go with Q1 to get a mix of turns and power if you just play beer league or pickup.


In _my opinion_ by just looking at skating style/Play style of certain nhlers the quad system Would fit:
Quad 0 - Crosby/Barzal
Quad 1 - Duchene/macKinnon
Quad 2 - Kreider/Larkin/McDavid

#5 60PlusWinger

60PlusWinger

Posted 05 March 2020 - 11:04 AM

Definately go with a 0,5mm pitch, will make you lean slightly forward and give you a kickstart.

I would go with Q1 to get a mix of turns and power if you just play beer league or pickup.


In _my opinion_ by just looking at skating style/Play style of certain nhlers the quad system Would fit:
Quad 0 - Crosby/Barzal
Quad 1 - Duchene/macKinnon
Quad 2 - Kreider/Larkin/McDavid


I rely Much less on crossovers for example. UC players like McDavid and they generate speed with 1000 crossovers where I find myself relying more on the push then quick feet to gain speed however that may be a product of poor set up overall and sway I’m digging deeper into this

#6 60PlusWinger

60PlusWinger

Posted 05 March 2020 - 11:04 AM

Definately go with a 0,5mm pitch, will make you lean slightly forward and give you a kickstart.

I would go with Q1 to get a mix of turns and power if you just play beer league or pickup.


In _my opinion_ by just looking at skating style/Play style of certain nhlers the quad system Would fit:
Quad 0 - Crosby/Barzal
Quad 1 - Duchene/macKinnon
Quad 2 - Kreider/Larkin/McDavid


I rely Much less on crossovers for example. UC players like McDavid and they generate speed with 1000 crossovers where I find myself relying more on the push then quick feet to gain speed however that may be a product of poor set up overall and sway I’m digging deeper into this

#7 60PlusWinger

60PlusWinger

Posted 05 March 2020 - 11:04 AM

Definately go with a 0,5mm pitch, will make you lean slightly forward and give you a kickstart.

I would go with Q1 to get a mix of turns and power if you just play beer league or pickup.


In _my opinion_ by just looking at skating style/Play style of certain nhlers the quad system Would fit:
Quad 0 - Crosby/Barzal
Quad 1 - Duchene/macKinnon
Quad 2 - Kreider/Larkin/McDavid


I rely Much less on crossovers for example. UC players like McDavid and they generate speed with 1000 crossovers where I find myself relying more on the push then quick feet to gain speed however that may be a product of poor set up overall and sway I’m digging deeper into this

#8 Robbieaik

Robbieaik

Posted 05 March 2020 - 11:16 AM

Well, to get more power you need more steel down the ice, Q2 Would give you that.

It’s not a big big difference between Q1 and Q2, but when the Q2 came I found it to give me more power in my strides.
But again, I usually skate in full speed in 30-50 meters.


As long as you get the profile pitched and get them to grind some more steel off in the front (toe) I think both Q1 and Q2 would satisfy you.

#9 60PlusWinger

60PlusWinger

Posted 05 March 2020 - 11:23 AM

Well, to get more power you need more steel down the ice, Q2 Would give you that.

It’s not a big big difference between Q1 and Q2, but when the Q2 came I found it to give me more power in my strides.
But again, I usually skate in full speed in 30-50 meters.


As long as you get the profile pitched and get them to grind some more steel off in the front (toe) I think both Q1 and Q2 would satisfy you.


I haven’t been getting enough knee bend and acceleration off the lines isn’t as quick as I’d like to have it. Think Donkey Kong in Mario Kart. Slow AF off the line but once he’s moving he’s fast. I need to work on my jump. I gave zero a shot for a tournament and found my legs got burnt out faster and I had left knee pain where I had a meniscus surgery a decade ago but maybe at age 34 it’s just time doing this

#10 Robbieaik

Robbieaik

Posted 05 March 2020 - 12:12 PM

Well, with the quad, or even zuperior profile, you got more steel contact to the ice that Takes energy, most players switch to a higher hollow to get more glide and burn less effort movingthe skates.

Full inch is pretty standard for pros in Sweden.

My quebecois friend used to roll 5/8s” and went up to 7/8s after the profile switch.

Many North American players Come here with half inch, or 5/8s.

Most of them end up skating on a full inch or something around that.

#11 60PlusWinger

60PlusWinger

Posted 17 March 2020 - 07:59 PM

Well, with the quad, or even zuperior profile, you got more steel contact to the ice that Takes energy, most players switch to a higher hollow to get more glide and burn less effort movingthe skates.

Full inch is pretty standard for pros in Sweden.

My quebecois friend used to roll 5/8s” and went up to 7/8s after the profile switch.

Many North American players Come here with half inch, or 5/8s.

Most of them end up skating on a full inch or something around that.


I tried working through my 9/10 profile 5/8ths hollow and super feet yellow carbon. Teammates said my skating looked off. I’m thinking of going back to my speed plates, ditching the heel lifts and going quad 1 or 2 profile at say 3/4ths? I’m 195lbs. When I went to make a tighter turn steel that I needed to be on the ice, wasn’t. What do you think? What team do you work with? I was with Maine Hockey as an assistant EQM actually.